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  Leaked Annual Meeting Video: "Expect Sudden Changes" Jeffrey Jackson

  by raymond frantz in

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  https://youtu.be/uxqqyrrffow?si=wo0jotyvjg76oljk.

  well that's sort of related to the next talk on our program brother jeffrey jackson will discuss the theme don't be surprised by sudden changes, brother jeff you have our.

  attention well i'm sure we all agree with this fact in recent years there have been a lot of changes even since the last annual meeting there have been many changes some of them perhaps are a little surprising or may seem to be sudden but you know brothers and sisters when we look back on how these changes have come we can see that jehovah has gradually prepared us for each of these adjustments and changes let's review some of the recent changes we've had what changes have we seen with regard to our understand understanding of bible teachings at the 2021 annual meeting we received an adjusted understanding of john 529 it was explained that the resurrection of judgment will not be a judgment of condemnation rather it will be more like a period of probation the unrighteous mentioned at acts 24:15 will have an opportunity to gain everlasting life but their names will not be written wr in the book of life at the time of their resurrection to have their names eventually written in that book these ones will need to respond positively to the great educational work that will take place during the thousand-year reign then at the annual meeting in 2023 we gained enhanced insight into what we do know and what we don't know concerning jehovah's judgments we learned that the door of opportunity for people to take a stand for the kingdom does not shut when the great tribulation starts with the destruction of false religion at that time perhaps some will be like the egyptians in moses day who took a last minute stand and joined the exodus of god's people at the same annual meeting we adjusted our views with regard to jehovah's judgments of those who died in the flood and those who were destroyed in sodom and gomorrah also at that annual meeting an adjustment was made regarding the reporting of our time and activity in our preaching work instead of focusing on reports we try to make good use of every opportunity to witness then we receive the 2024 governing body update number two in that update we saw the need to adjust how we interact with those who have committed serious sins and have been removed from the congregation what other major adjustments have we recently seen in our preaching work the emphasis now is on studing bible studies and making disciples not on distributing literature to that end the focus is on studying meaningful conversations not just on using memorized presentations were you surprised by these adjustments perhaps so but as we look back we see how one adjustment in understanding gradually helped us with the next adjustment isn't it true that gradually jehovah has prepared us and when we look back on it we see how logical this training has been to refine our understanding but events in the world likewise have changed it's true sometimes in the world you have sudden changes for example the pandemic but often times change in the world is gradual isn't it true with regard to the view of morality homosexuality abortion even what's acceptable and not acceptable with regard to conduct all of that has happened gradually in the world and it's not until you look back and see how different the world is today with regard to those matters that we see that there have been a lot of changes but this can be dangerous because as things gradually change we may get used to gradual change and forget that there are some sudden changes about to occur uh let's take our bibles please and if you turn with me to the book of luke chap 21 now this is an example of sudden change in luke chap 21 uh notice there in verse 34 the words of our lord jesus are recorded and he said in verse 34 but pay attention to yourselves that your hearts never become weighed down with oving and heavy drinking and anxieties of life and suddenly suddenly that they be instantly instantly upon you it's interesting to note that jesus had already said that this day he was referring to would occur at a time that we don't think is likely so what lesson do we learn from what jesus said it's a warning isn't it that we can't just sit back and think well things are gradually going to develop we know which way it's going and maybe it's not going to happen yet you know got a little bit more wiggle room there with regard to the schedule but you see that's dangerous thinking now what we're going to do is consider two examples of areas where perhaps we could be a little guilty with regard to that for example our view as with regard to the number of anointed ones remaining on the earth now for many years what did we think we thought well that number would go down and down and down and down now i don't know about you but me i you when that report came out just how many how many partakers and and what were we thinking we probably you maybe we didn't say it but we were thinking you know the number will go down down down down and there'll be just a couple of old guys in a wheelchair who will get their reward well i'm exaggerating but that was sort of the feeling wasn't it but now what have we seen in recent years those numbers have gone up and up and not only that younger brothers have been appointed on the governing body now i know what you're all thinking two new ones how old are they we know you're not googling now but you will be but you see we need to be careful about what we're thinking with regard to the number of anointed ones left on earth you see 19 years ago i was appointed on the governing body even i thought i was too young now they tell me i'm not so young anymore but do we see the point what does the bible actually tell us with regard to this well it doesn't say the number would just dwindle down to just having a few uh older ones left no the great crowd of other sheep will be judged on the basis of how they deal with

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  I'd rather they say "We don't know" than to go beyond what is written and just guess.
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  What Theme Song Should Be Played When You Walk Into a Room?

  by Sea Breeze in

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  this could fun.

  what song should be played when you walk into a room that best describes you?

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  Could We Start Again Please. (Jesus Christ Superstar)
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  Wythenshawe Kingdom Hall - Sold

  by AdamCzarnobay in

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  i was slightly surprised to see that wythenshawe hall has been sold.

  it's now a mosque.

  this one had an attached flat where the co and his wife lived, i wonder what accommodation they put them in these days..

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  Blondie, sorry it took so long to get back to you. Yes, this is in California, and I'm talking about COs apartments at KINGDOM halls, not Assembly Halls. I know nothing about COs apartments at AHs in CA.
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  Wythenshawe Kingdom Hall - Sold

  by AdamCzarnobay in

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  i was slightly surprised to see that wythenshawe hall has been sold.

  it's now a mosque.

  this one had an attached flat where the co and his wife lived, i wonder what accommodation they put them in these days..

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  My former and current older KHs both had/have occupied COs apartments.
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  New here

  by AdamCzarnobay in

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  i left the organization in 2017.. was in several congregations in the north west of england.

  i just wanted to say thank you to all of you that have posted on here over the years, it really helped me to see the truth about the organization.

  i lurked here for many years under an anonymous login and then finally plucked up the courage to write my disassociation letter.. adam.

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  a watcher

  Did you leave Jehovah too?
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  Beroean Pickets- please offer encouragement

  by Lightgrowsbrighter in

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  for many who have left jw.org, there is still a spiritual need and faith in the bible.

  beroean pickets is one group/website where serious bible research and commentary, weekly critical reviews of wt studies, as well expose's of flawed wt opinion/doctrine- all backed by the bible- can be considered.

  this vast amount of work and research is all done by just a small group of our volunteer brothers and sisters.

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  I prefer e-jehovahs-witnesses.com.
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  Prepare to get Pelted by Symbolic Hailstones

  by raymond frantz in

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  https://youtu.be/idhmflud3p4?si=9xc4svrhxslduwvz.

  so david schafer a member of the teaching commitee and a helper to the governing body has come out yesterday with a new video that goes through the king of the north, the hailstones message and other things in the wake of the possibility of a ww3 and especially now that tensions are escalating with russia so he is making quite a few end time arguments and i will be expanding on those one by one but today let's see what he has about the hailstones message of the end(video) so this is the paragraph in question, paragraph 14 from article 20 of the watchtower 2020 study edition: "sometime after the start of the great tribulation, “the kings of the entire inhabited earth” will form a coalition of nations.

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  If there ever is a hailstone message, it will probably be delivered by the two witnesses of Revelation, chapter 11, and they will be martyred for it.
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  Extreme at odds ever since pandemic ...

  by Palegreen79 in

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  march 3-9 theocratic school material is something else.. i fully get that there are 2 major sides of thinking regarding that topic.

  but really from their own lying mouths it was a personal decision that should have been respected.

  this was not reality.

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  a watcher

  The GB is opening old wounds. Big mistake.
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  Jehovah’s Witnesses’ UN Prophecy Fails Again: Trump’s Win Proves Them Wrong

  by raymond frantz in

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  https://youtu.be/-kdbs3lcsx8?si=icfla8tzg0p_wdcz.

  the governing body of jehovah’s witnesses (gb) has done it again—another bold prophecy, another epic fail.

  during their 2024 annual meeting, they confidently announced that the nations of the world would soon hand over their power to the united nations.

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  Trump is just a speed bump. Prophecy will be fulfilled.
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  Extreme at odds ever since pandemic ...

  by Palegreen79 in

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  march 3-9 theocratic school material is something else.. i fully get that there are 2 major sides of thinking regarding that topic.

  but really from their own lying mouths it was a personal decision that should have been respected.

  this was not reality.

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  a watcher

  I will not attend that meeting.